State of Honor: How AJ Styles and Others Changed the Goals of Wrestlers Around the World

The 2300 Arena was the stage for Ring of Honor's Final Battle Pay-Per-View. That venue may not sound familiar to most wrestling fans. That's because they might know the now-renovated building as the former ECW Arena. The building was known for hosting hard-hitting, sometimes violent battles, but has become a regular stop for a variety of wrestling promotions and styles.

You could say Ring of Honor has gone through a similar renovation over the last few years.

In 2011, Sinclair Broadcasting purchased Ring of Honor and moved their weekly television show to their affiliates around the country. The show continues to makes new clearances in more markets with Sinclair reaching about 37.5 percent of American television households. For those without Ring of Honor television in their market, the show can be viewed for free every Thursday on the company's site.

In June 2015, Ring of Honor began running on Destination America in addition to Sinclair affiliates as part of a wrestling block with TNA Impact Wrestling. However, that partnership with Destination America was short-lived and the show ended up moving to Comet last December. Between Comet, Sinclair affiliates and the company site, fans have the chance to catch the weekly show at their convenience.

While ROH has made quite a name for themselves on their own in developing from an independent promotion to what they are today, they’ve had to deal with some of their best talent leaving along the way. WWE Superstars like CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Seth Rollins, Kevin Owens, Samoa Joe, Sami Zayn, Cesaro, Austin Aries, and now A.J. Styles all spent significant portions of their respective careers in ROH and helped build the company. To ROH’s credit, they’ve embraced this with the “Creating Excellence” slogan that is seen at the beginning of their programming and YouTube videos featuring some of those aforementioned names.

The success of those former ROH stars in WWE and around the world has been a huge boost to the value of the ROH brand, which is why they’ve become not a stop in the careers of wrestlers, but the desired destination.

16 A.J. Styles: Has your career opened the door for others to adjust their goals with WWE not necessarily being the end game? 


A perfect example of that excellence is A.J. Styles. I spoke to Styles about a month before the news of his WWE signing happened. Obviously, Styles has made huge waves in 2016 with his long overdue debut in WWE at the Royal Rumble. Styles was with ROH at the beginning, but is likely best known for his time in TNA, but after leaving that company at the end of 2013, he returned to Ring of Honor. His match against ROH World Champion Jay Lethal at Final Battle was his final one for the company before joining WWE. He was also part of the main-event scene in New Japan Pro Wrestling (NJPW with his final singles match there coming against Shinsuke Nakamura for the IWGP Intercontinental Title at NJPW’s biggest event of the year, Wrestle Kingdom 10, on January 4. Nakamura has also signed with WWE and has been announced for NXT TakeOver: Dallas in April. Because of his commitments with NJPW, Styles wasn’t on every ROH television show or live event. However, he was a big part of the working relationship between the companies, which was announced in February 2014 and culminated in the first joint show, War of the Worlds, in May 2014. That relationship has grown and continues to be beneficial to both companies.

15 Christopher Daniels: What changes have you seen in ROH, specifically as it relates to television? 


Ring of Honor wasn’t always a television product, but now that it is, there’s clearly an effect on how the companies operates, both from a creative and business standpoint. “The Fallen Angel” Christopher Daniels, a 22-year veteran, was part of the company’s first main event back in 2002 and has been in and out of the company multiple times with stops in TNA in between. His latest stint with ROH started in 2014.

14 Adam Cole: What does the relationship between ROH and PWG mean to you? 


In December 2015, ROH announced a partnership with Pro Wrestling Guerrilla (PWG), which is one of the most popular independent promotions in the world based out of Reseda, California. That agreement came after Adam Cole, who’s signed the first exclusive contract with ROH, made a surprise return to PWG at All-Star Weekend: Night One, just days before the agreement was announced.

Cole has been wrestling for nearly eight years, but started with ROH in 2009 and later joined PWG in 2011, where he was the longest reigning PWG World Champion until he lost the title on May 23, 2014, his last appearance with the company until his December 2015 return. And you can tell, it meant a lot to him when asked about it.

13 Adam Cole: Do you like the idea of cross-promoting between ROH and PWG? 


Cole’s return to PWG wasn’t the only one by a member of the ROH roster. His opponent at Final Battle, Kyle O’Reilly, showed up just a day later at All-Star Weekend: Night Two, which made for an interesting face-off considering the two would be facing off less than a week later in a different promotion.

Clearly, there was an acknowledgement of what was to come at Final Battle for ROH, but to meet in a PWG ring across the country blurred the lines a bit.

12 Kyle O’Reilly: What have you seen change during your time with ROH? 


While O’Reilly made his big return to PWG in December, he’s been spending the majority of his time teaming with Bobby Fish as part of reDRagon in both ROH and NJPW. The 28-year-old is a native of Vancouver, but knew he had to come to America to get his chance in ROH, where he’s been working under contract since 2010.

11 Kyle O’Reilly: How do you feel the ROH/NJPW relationship has helped your career? 


O’Reilly is a two-time IWGP Junior Tag Team Champion with Fish and went to the finals of the 2015 Best of the Super Juniors in NJPW, so he’s certainly been helped by his time in Japan.

10 The Young Bucks: What’s your philosophy when it comes to social media? 

When it comes to blurring the lines, no one does it better than The Young Bucks. The Bucks consist of real-life brothers, Matt and Nick Jackson, and whether it’s promising to hit their most devastating finishing move, The Meltzer Driver, if they sell enough t-shirts or explaining to their families why they’re such big stars, you won’t find a more polarizing pair in wrestling.

Traditionalists hate them for their so-called lack of psychology and abundance of high spots. Those who want to have fun, flock to The Young Bucks. You can call them brash, cocky, or arrogant, and they’d probably agree with those descriptions. Or would they? Ask Matt on Twitter.

9 The Young Bucks: How important was the PWG relationship with ROH to you? 


During his return to PWG, Cole re-aligned himself with The Young Bucks as part of the Mount Rushmore 2.0 faction. The Bucks are a big reason why relationships between ROH and NJPW and ROH and PWG exist. Both brothers knew their worth when entering negotiations with ROH.

Nick Jackson – “When ROH approached us to sign another contract, we said we need a working agreement with NJPW and PWG and if you don’t want that, then we’re done talking.”

8 The Young Bucks: Are your unique contracts yet another homage to The Kilq? 


When The Young Bucks re-signed with ROH in October 2014, their deal set new precedents. In addition to letting them work for NJPW and PWG, ROH also let them keep their store at, which is a huge revenue source for the brothers.

The unique deal reminded me of the guaranteed contracts Scott Hall and Kevin Nash got when they left WWE for WCW in 1996. Those members of The Kliq paved the way for negotiations for years to come. Nick and Matt agreed with my comparisons.

Nick Jackson – “It’s on a smaller scale, but you’re right on the button there.”

Matt Jackson – “We throw up the too sweet sign because we want to be like The Kliq in the ring and outside of the ring. They changed the business. If we have the power and we’re cool enough to help the guys out, these guys are our buddies. These are our friends. I see these guys more than my family. I’m going to help these guys out. We have to work together here. We have to make as much money as we can. We have to save our money. Then, we have to get out when it’s time. We think about each other. I think this era is less selfish than the others. It’s just a different crop of guys. The ProWrestlingTees thing is revolutionary. This is a gold mine. This is how you make money.”

7 The Young Bucks: Can wrestlers look to you guys as examples of WWE not being the end game? 


Matt Jackson – “We created this. This wasn’t ever a real option. Colt Cabana, AJ Styles are the pioneers of this. There are very few people who can do it. We’re trying to make it more possible for everybody. We want it to be another place for everybody to work.”

Nick Jackson – “In this day and age, you can come to ROH and make an actual career out of it. You can make good money. I’m talking the same money these guys in NXT are making, possibly more. Even people on the (WWE) main roster, in our case. And with the contract we just signed, we’re going to be home more. That’s a big bonus.”

6 The Young Bucks: What else do you want to see from ROH? 


Matt Jackson – “I think the way the trends are going with the houses being up, more people watching the product, I’m just excited to see what happens maybe with the NJPW thing. They’re (ROH) going out there to Japan. I think that could be a really cool thing. Maybe we can keep going out there. I love the partnerships.”

Nick Jackson – “I want the three companies (ROH, NJPW, PWG) to grow more. I want the relationship to grow more. I think it would be a hell of an angle to involve all three of them somehow. I don’t know if that’s possible.”

Matt Jackson – “We’re trying to sway a few of our big-name friends to sign here. I would love to see CM Punk come back. Maybe in the next couple of years. In wrestling, anything’s possible nowadays.”

5 Frankie Kazarian: How do you think the PWG/ROH relationship will work going forward? 


Although he’s been wrestling for almost 18 years, Frankie Kazarian spent only six months in WWE with the majority of his career happening in TNA. With both of those companies in his rearview mirror, Kazarian has been a mainstay in ROH for almost two years and is back on the independent scene, including PWG. He’s certainly enjoying the freedom that comes along with that.

4 Frankie Kazarian: Considering all the places you’ve wrestled, does it feel different working at a ROH or PWG show compared to TNA or WWE? 


3 Christopher Daniels: Can the alternatives to WWE change the general perception of wrestling? 


If you’re looking for an alternative to what you see on Monday and Thursday nights, anyone you talk to in ROH believes they have the answer. Daniels sees plenty of options.

2 Adam Cole: What do you want to see in wrestling in the future? 


Cole loves the direction of the business as a whole and likens it to what’s happening outside of the wresting genre. And he wants to be part of making it even bigger.

1 The Young Bucks: Why is there some much negativity from fans when it comes to the wrestling business? 


There’s probably too much negativity when it comes to wrestling fans criticizing the product, and many say if you don’t like what you’re seeing on Monday Night Raw, then don’t watch. But what about those that want that wrestling scratch itched? Nick Jackson says they are finding ways to satisfy their need.

Nick Jackson - “People are just searching for an alternative right now. Every show we go to, no matter where it is, the attendance is rising. People are buying merch. People are buying the autographs to meet you. I think people want this. People are sick of what they’re seeing, possibly on Monday nights. I think they’ve found something they like. And I think that’s why ROH is growing like crazy.”

The growth will continue in 2016. ROH had a presence on NJPW’s Wrestle Kingdom 10 in multiple matches, including an ROH World Title contest featuring solely ROH wrestlers in Lethal, the champion, and Michael Elgin, the challenger. In February, the companies will run join shows in Japan, called Honor Rising. Later in the month, NJPW stars including Hiroshi Tanahashi, Tomohiro Ishii, and IWGP Intercontinental Champion Kenny Omega will appear at ROH’s 14th Anniversary PPV. In May, the companies will come together yet again for the War of the Worlds Tour.

If you want a different flavor of wrestling, ROH provides many flavors and their relationships with NJPW and PWG will only create more in the future. It’s a great time to be a wrestling fan if you know where to look.

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